Imagine telling a friend that invested in your business a decade ago that it’s been losing money from operations for nearly a decade, increases in sales have equaled increases in losses, the reason the company has been able to survive despite huge losses is because of unprecedented money printing from Fed since 2008, and that money printing is about to come to an end. Ha! $cvna $bmbl
It‘s hilarious that companies like $CVNA and $BMBL boast about revenue growth on their quarterly reports but never address the fact that more sales equals greater losses...it’s like they‘re for-loss companies. The Fed enabled them to plod along like zombies for years...but the zombie age is coming to an end.
Inflation peaked? The Fed is full of it. Record producer prices are going to be passed onto consumers. Disposable income for unprofitable scam companies gone. The coming recession is the final nail in the coffin. $SPY $CVNA $BMBL
14 years of printing from the Fed made Wall Street forget that profits matter. If these loser companies can’t make money in a good economy, what makes you think they can during a recession? Profits matter in the end! $CVNA $BMBL
I did some work on that and found out that the number of shares outstanding in Yahoo is well correct (2 shares per ADS).
"As of September 30, 2020, the number of ordinary shares outstanding was 415,801,407." in last Q3 report MOMO INC SPON ADS EACH REP 2 ORD SHS CL A MOMO INC SPONSORED ADR CLASS A =>208m ADS => market cap = 208 * 17.14 =3.56bn Shareholder equity = 2.1 bn "As of September 30, 2020, Momo's cash, cash equivalents, short-term deposits and long-term deposits totaled RMB15,764.1 million (US$2,321.8 million), compared to RMB15,225.3 million as of December 31, 2019. Net cash provided by operating activities in the third quarter of 2020 was RMB691.1 million (US$101.8 million), compared to RMB1,175.9 million in the third quarter of 2019." from Q3 earnings => 3.56 - 2.1 = 1.46 bn / 360m earnings (12 months to September)= 4.06 PE
-Of course there is a $300m share buyback announced in September 2020 -The undervaluation is even bigger should Tantan confirm its growth and as $BMBL and $MTCH get much higher valorization
How to return value to shareholders... The next steps available for MOMO management: 1/ Complete current $300m share buyback announced in September 2020 2/ Announce the next share buyback $1bn?(2.1 bn shareholder equity / As of September 30, 2020, Momo's cash, cash equivalents, short-term deposits and long-term deposits totaled RMB15,764.1 million (US$2,321.8 million)) 3/ IPO of Tantan in Hong Kong in 2022, sell 5% of shares? whenever ready (I would suggest when 1bn yearly revenue reached, so should be no later than 2022 if current growth stays there) => check IPO of Kuaishou 1024.hk : "Kuaishou’s shares opened in Hong Kong on Friday at HK$338 ($43.6) apiece, a 194% jump from its IPO price of HK$115 ($14.8). That catapults its market cap to nearly HK$1.4 trillion ($180 billion). " (under $4 bn revenue in 2020) => $BMBL market cap of $7bn (revenue very close to Tantan, 165m in Q4 ) => $MTCH market cap of $41 bn ($2.4 bn revenue expected for2021)
=> so, all those are trading at ratios of 10 to 40 times the revenues... =>I let you imagine what valorisation Tantan IPO would get... it looks like at least $10bn if you do the math
As many know, Tantan business is not dependent of Chinese politics... on the contrary, it looks like China needs more babies...
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$bmbl , a dating app is trading at over $70 and now palantir is tanking . Lol
I said this yesterday but $bmbl was always worth at least $2 billion to $mtch just to acquire the user base. A big miss would have created a tremendous buying opportunity because unlike other companies, there is a clear buyout at a certain floor.
$BMBL growing revenue at 50%...compared to $MTCH at 21%. Match's brands just cannibalize each other, and they bog down their expenses on so many different apps. Bumble, on the other hand, places all of their energy into one, limiting their costs and avoids competing it's brands against one another.
$BMBL is the future of dating. Women love it...it's as safe as they can get in a dating app.
If I was $MTCH or $BMBL management, I would buy 20% of $MOMO company ($600m now) ... as a hedge in case they miss the biggest world market... and... as long term cash management... with the 4% dividend... and all the upside if growth is back as suspected... this is a no brainer... While Momo has nearly has much cash on its account as its own market cap...
Daimler had 10% of $TSLA not so long ago... was a clever move to keep it... but nice to take it in the past... it is just a hedge...
The only reason I invested is because I believe the drug works and I believe that HGEN has taken the right steps to get past the Regulatory Gatekeepers and to the sick that need it. That hasn't changed, except to say that the REG G's have taken a lot longer than I expected.
When the stock goes down so much with so little volume, I take it as a comfort. I might be sick, but I was just in the same boat with $BMBL, $EBAY, and $LOW as well. If the stock was shooting sky high without the EUA, that's the time to be on guard.. $SESN is the ultimate example of that for generations of investors for all time.
But when the SP is trickling down on low volume with virtually every analyst saying buy- I'll wait it out. I can but then again, I don't tend to invest in these out of the money options, WHICH by the way, is what I believe is the catalyst of today's SP, and probably tomorrow. If you're sitting on a Call with a Strike Price of 15, I think you're on the menu. Sorry about that...
$BMBL earnings out: Q4 revenue rose 31% to $165.6 million as TANTAN revenue grew by 46% in Q3 to $107.4m (owned by $MOMO)... if Tantan has a growth of 46% in Q4 (to take the same number as Q3 as example) revenue of Tantan will be $156.8m... just shy of bmbl Market cap of $BMBL 8bn (at open on 11th March), Market cap of $MOMO 3.3bn (momo as other businesses and has cash on its balance sheet)... Guess which stock is cheaper?
Have tried several times to post Jim Cramers support for $BMBL on Lightning Round, just Google it on CNBC for yourself. (Yahoo keeps eliminating the link)
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Ok going to watch $BMBL IPO. Let’s get this past 5 while I’m gone?
I did some work on that and found out that the number of shares outstanding in Yahoo is well correct (2 shares per ADS).
"As of September 30, 2020, the number of ordinary shares outstanding was 415,801,407." in last Q3 report
MOMO INC SPON ADS EACH REP 2 ORD SHS CL A MOMO INC SPONSORED ADR CLASS A =>208m ADS
=> market cap = 208 * 17.14 =3.56bn
Shareholder equity = 2.1 bn
"As of September 30, 2020, Momo's cash, cash equivalents, short-term deposits and long-term deposits totaled RMB15,764.1 million (US$2,321.8 million), compared to RMB15,225.3 million as of December 31, 2019. Net cash provided by operating activities in the third quarter of 2020 was RMB691.1 million (US$101.8 million), compared to RMB1,175.9 million in the third quarter of 2019." from Q3 earnings
=> 3.56 - 2.1 = 1.46 bn / 360m earnings (12 months to September)= 4.06 PE
-Of course there is a $300m share buyback announced in September 2020
-The undervaluation is even bigger should Tantan confirm its growth and as $BMBL and $MTCH get much higher valorization
1/ Complete current $300m share buyback announced in September 2020
2/ Announce the next share buyback $1bn?(2.1 bn shareholder equity / As of September 30, 2020, Momo's cash, cash equivalents, short-term deposits and long-term deposits totaled RMB15,764.1 million (US$2,321.8 million))
3/ IPO of Tantan in Hong Kong in 2022, sell 5% of shares? whenever ready (I would suggest when 1bn yearly revenue reached, so should be no later than 2022 if current growth stays there)
=> check IPO of Kuaishou 1024.hk : "Kuaishou’s shares opened in Hong Kong on Friday at HK$338 ($43.6) apiece, a 194% jump from its IPO price of HK$115 ($14.8). That catapults its market cap to nearly HK$1.4 trillion ($180 billion). " (under $4 bn revenue in 2020)
=> $BMBL market cap of $7bn (revenue very close to Tantan, 165m in Q4 )
=> $MTCH market cap of $41 bn ($2.4 bn revenue expected for2021)
=> so, all those are trading at ratios of 10 to 40 times the revenues...
=>I let you imagine what valorisation Tantan IPO would get... it looks like at least $10bn if you do the math
As many know, Tantan business is not dependent of Chinese politics... on the contrary, it looks like China needs more babies...
$BMBL is the future of dating. Women love it...it's as safe as they can get in a dating app.
Daimler had 10% of $TSLA not so long ago... was a clever move to keep it... but nice to take it in the past... it is just a hedge...
When the stock goes down so much with so little volume, I take it as a comfort. I might be sick, but I was just in the same boat with
$BMBL, $EBAY, and $LOW as well. If the stock was shooting sky high without the EUA, that's the time to be on guard.. $SESN is the ultimate example of that for generations of investors for all time.
But when the SP is trickling down on low volume with virtually every analyst saying buy- I'll wait it out. I can but then again, I don't tend to invest in these out of the money options, WHICH by the way, is what I believe is the catalyst of today's SP, and probably tomorrow. If you're sitting on a Call with a Strike Price of 15, I think you're on the menu. Sorry about that...
2020 revenue $2.2 bn
2017 revenue $1.3 bn
so, who says no growth?
compare vs market capitalisation
compare vs $BMBL and $MTCH
Here is the history of Shareholder equity, which is nearly all in cash:
2021-03-31 2588
2020-12-31 2273
2020-09-30 2106
2020-06-30 1971
2020-03-31 1879
2019-12-31 1971
2019-09-30 1755
2019-06-30 1664
2019-03-31 1564
2018-12-31 1603
2018-09-30 1485
2018-06-30 1417
2018-03-31 1207
2017-12-31 1038
2017-09-30 910
2017-06-30 808
2017-03-31 727
2016-12-31 634
2016-09-30 551
2016-06-30 502
2016-03-31 482
2015-12-31 468
2015-09-30 458
2015-06-30 456
2015-03-31 450
2014-12-31 440
Yes the management has built a crazy cash machine
Market cap of $BMBL 8bn (at open on 11th March), Market cap of $MOMO 3.3bn (momo as other businesses and has cash on its balance sheet)... Guess which stock is cheaper?