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    Big_Dawg1963
    $AIG conversation
    Trump's tariff scare today might send the markets lower on Monday. Would be happy to add to my $AIG position before earnings if that is the case.
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    Marlon
    $HTZ conversation
    How your short doing folks? I am on a boat $LULU $CAR $AMZN $AAPL $QQQ $TSLA $AIG $LYFT $SPY
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    Edward
    $AIG conversation
    This company is a real LOSER. With the reverse split back in 2009 of 1:20 the stock today is really $2.70 per share. Compare this to its all time high price of $120 per share around 2007 or so. And without the U.S. government this LOSER would not even be in business today. In other words, it would be priced at $ 0.00!
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    Steven
    3 weeks ago,, I bought July PUTS for $1.16 @ 210 strike sold them today for $40.00. Maybe I should have kept them but you never know. I do think this company will need a bailout before it’s all over. But here is the question LONGs need to ask themselves. If $BA is drowning in debt and ends up needing a bailout, do you think they will ever get back to the $300’s? The only reason they were there in the first place was because the company was buying back their stock in the open market and inflating the price. This company will not see the 300’s for years to come! This reminds me of $AIG in 2008. They still haven’t recovered their highs!
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    clifford
    $AIG conversation
    AIG trading at 80% of book value. In other words, we have at least another 25% of stock growth to happen just to get to book value. The industry average trades at about 2.5x book value. We should be at $200, easy, based on today's book value. Last time I checked AIG is growing.
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    josh
    $AIG conversation
    01/06/17
    Credit Suisse Group Upgrades American International Group (AIG) Neutral -> Outperform
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    Kevin
    $AIG conversation
    With the stock hitting some recent highs at just over $63, I looked at my scenario for the warrants, which continue to be depressed comparatively. Since the dividend was declared, although yet to be paid, I did use the updated assumptions that the strike price on the warrants will be at 44.40 and be able to be exchanged for 1.012 shares each. Time value I show now to be at approx 3.10 but should be approximating 8.29, thus showing them to be under-value by 5.19 or almost 24%. I am not buying anymore at this time as I have $320k tied up between the AIG stock and warrants.

    I do have another 200k in PRU, which has been fantastic... this yr...wont realize full gain as I was selling calls against them, but dang I will make 20% in less than 6 months. Would have been 34% if I didnt use the calls, but who knew they would rise this fast for an insurance co. Anyways...GLTA...and look at the warrants.
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    Kevin
    $AIG conversation
    Followup on Warrants from below. On Sept 13 Stock was $58.23 and warrants 21.81 with an implied annual time value of $1.86

    Now (9-30) the stock is at 59.33 (up $1.10) and warrants at $21.17 (down -$0.64) with an implied annual time value of 1.47 (Assumes market is correct and difference in value of warrants and mkt value is time.

    The value of time I doubt has dropped 21%. I would expect to see at least a 5% increase in warrant value assuming AIG holds its current price, if not a greater increase. Value is here. In fact I have an order in right now for 1000 additional warrants.
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    Kevin
    $AIG conversation
    Saw note on warrants. Orig strike $45 for 1 share. Due to dividends exceeding X amount in annual period both the strike and the shares are adjusted in the favor of the warrant holder. Now each warrant strike price is 44.5525 and worth 1.01 shares. If the divi is kept the same the adjustments will continue to be small, but if rise the adjustments will be more meaningful

    For me, I have 3,000 warrants and with the stock at $58.23 this places the value of the warrant at $41,442.83 which is approx $1,750 higher than at the original provision for the warrants. Market is actually $65,430. The difference represents time value. Warrants expire Jan 2021 or in 4.30 yrs. This places a value of aproximately $1.86/yr if straight-lining this value. Excluding future impacts of dividend adj to warrant price, the stock has to increase more than this (1.86 or 3.2%) annually to see any increase in the warrants. Say the stock moves up $5 or 8.6% to 63.23 by 9-13-17. Warrants on face = 56,593 + Time Value ($8.00 Current -1.86 lost time)* 3000)) or 56,593+18,420 = 75,013. Current Market = 65,430 so gain is $9,583 or 14.6%. (will be slightly higher due to divi adj). But this exceeds the Stock increase of 8.6% + 2.2% (annual divi) or 10.8%. If you think the stock can rise by 8.6% or more per year you truly have to do your due diligence on the warrants. Larger stock price increases just increases the benefit of the warrants compared to the stock. But in this reasonable case 14.6% is 35% greater return than 10.8% (3.8%/10.8%). I know I want to make 35% more on my money. Not saying you make 35%, just that in this scenario you make 35% more.

    There is higher risk of course with warrants. If the stock does not move up, the value will go down. If the stock prices approaches $45 then the warrants become not worth very much. This is an investment on an AIG increase and due to the higher risk as noted, there is a higher return if and when the stock moves higher. Good luck to all AIG longs.
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    Kevin
    $AIG conversation
    Been tracking stock price and warrant price and with a calc on the implied time value. A quick recap and then a little perspective.

    9-13-16 Stock 58.23 Warrant 21.83 - implied time value 1.86/yr
    9-30-16 Stock 59.33 Warrant 21.17 - implied time value 1.47/yr
    10-07-16 Stock 60.37 Warrant 21.00 - implied time value 1.19/yr
    10-19-16 Stock 60.93 Warrant 21.00 - implied time value 1.06/yr

    These are days I have put into a spreadsheet. Is just a periodic update, not a weekly, monthly or anything, just when I update. Anyways the stock has increased 4+% and warrants declined -3+%. So totally inverse of what you think should happen, thus the implied time value has decreased if the market is correct. j0n has done analysis and noted that time value should be approx $2/yr. Assuming this there is 4.21 yrs remaining on the warrants. Thus they are approximately undervalue by 4.21* (2.00-1.06) = $3.95 or approx 18.9%.

    Been watching at the warrants keep sticking at 21.00, almost like there is manipulation going on. Remember as the dividend increase, this also lowers the warrant price while also increasing the # of shares they can be exchanged. Thus AIG will not be increasing the dividend significantly unless they can reduce the warrants outstanding. It very well could be that AIG is working on buying these warrants. They have in the past and I expect they are now. If they can get them on the cheap, like they are right now (assumes stock price holds or increases) then there will be opportunity to have larger dividend payouts in the future.

    Conclusion: Warrant price is being held down so that AIG can purchase. Qualifier: Is a total assumption, as I have no direct knowledge but has some probability given this under the radar investment (the warrant).

    Full disclosure I now own 4500 warrants and 3500 common
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    Barry
    $AIG conversation
    do any of you think that the Matthew storm will have any effect on this stock, and if so about how much? been awhile since this much damage has occurred in 1 season.
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    josh
    $AIG conversation
    12/12/16
    BMO Capital Markets Upgrades American International Group (AIG) Market Perform -> Outperform
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    Kaptain
    $AIG conversation
    I just left a complex and detailed reply t a poster about the warrants. Yahoo killed it. I left my old message board, only to be suckered by this one. Nice work, Yahoo! I really enjoy wasting my time.
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    Bunny
    $AIG conversation
    MET is cheaper than AIG? Both are at 0.79 book value. Yet Met did not require Tar money in crisis. It seems like thier assets base is stronger and stable. Thoughts? .
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    Kevin
    $AIG conversation
    is plain absolutely ludicrous that AIG warramts are down. Someone must be getting out. So much value here. These are completely undervalued at the moment. IF you think AIG is going up, this is the play...it is a double play if you think the dividend will also be increased.
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    josh
    $AIG conversation
    Goldman Sachs Group Reiterates American International Group (AIG) Buy -> Conviction-Buy $68.00
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    TraderDon
    $AIG conversation
    We have a liftoff!!!
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    AYU
    $AIG conversation
    Felow investor, would it be wise to buy AIG now? It has disappointed in the past recent earnings, but I assume it's too big to fail! Or it can go even lower?
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    Kaptain
    $AIG conversation
    Is it Peter Hancock or Peter Sellers running this company? Bottom line: This quarter stunk less than the last one- but stunk it did. The analysts are made fools of once again.